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	<title>Comments on: We Must Invert the Pastor Pyramid</title>
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		<title>By: meredithgriffin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen. I too believe that the Pastor pyramid must be inverted. The inversion is called &#039;servant leadership&#039;, and I believe that it was modeled best by Christ himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen. I too believe that the Pastor pyramid must be inverted. The inversion is called &#8217;servant leadership&#8217;, and I believe that it was modeled best by Christ himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Inverting the Leadership Pyramid : Subversive Influence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inverting the Leadership Pyramid : Subversive Influence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] says It&#8217;s Time to Invert the Management Pyramid, which Ryan Bolger follows up by saying We Must Invert the Pastor Pyramid. I&#8217;m not really very big on chasing down business strategies to apply to the church, but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] says It&#8217;s Time to Invert the Management Pyramid, which Ryan Bolger follows up by saying We Must Invert the Pastor Pyramid. I&#8217;m not really very big on chasing down business strategies to apply to the church, but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Bolger</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanbolger.com/?p=161&#038;cpage=1#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Bolger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, no advance on the group MDiv, sad to say. I think it is okay to look at business models, but not base a ministry on them. Like any set of narratives and practices, for Christians to adopt these is to run them through a kingdom grid. So, borrow all you want, provided they work for forgiveness, they are generous, they overcome racial divisions, recognize giftedness in all members (against dehumanization) and they give everyone a voice. If this is the case, go into any culture, but be Christian when you do...

Danny, yes, collaboration is very congruent with a Pauline perspective of every-member giftedness. It is something we need to embrace at all levels. 
Peace, R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, no advance on the group MDiv, sad to say. I think it is okay to look at business models, but not base a ministry on them. Like any set of narratives and practices, for Christians to adopt these is to run them through a kingdom grid. So, borrow all you want, provided they work for forgiveness, they are generous, they overcome racial divisions, recognize giftedness in all members (against dehumanization) and they give everyone a voice. If this is the case, go into any culture, but be Christian when you do&#8230;</p>
<p>Danny, yes, collaboration is very congruent with a Pauline perspective of every-member giftedness. It is something we need to embrace at all levels.<br />
Peace, R</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree! I think this has interesting consequences for things like Sunday School where we teach children still in a mainly didactic &quot;I&#039;m the teacher, you&#039;re the student&quot; type of mentality. I think that discussion and collobaration between student and teacher need to be an important part of the process.  

This is happening in education as well with more of an emphasis on collaborative learning styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree! I think this has interesting consequences for things like Sunday School where we teach children still in a mainly didactic &#8220;I&#8217;m the teacher, you&#8217;re the student&#8221; type of mentality. I think that discussion and collobaration between student and teacher need to be an important part of the process.  </p>
<p>This is happening in education as well with more of an emphasis on collaborative learning styles.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember hearing a while back that you proposed a team M.Div. has anything come of that?  It seems right in line with what Nayar is talking about.
 
 At the same time I also feel like it is time to stop looking at business models when running a ministry.  Basing our ministries off of business models embeds them with a DNA which they have a tendency to revert to over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember hearing a while back that you proposed a team M.Div. has anything come of that?  It seems right in line with what Nayar is talking about.</p>
<p> At the same time I also feel like it is time to stop looking at business models when running a ministry.  Basing our ministries off of business models embeds them with a DNA which they have a tendency to revert to over time.</p>
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