Existing Churches — Let them die?

Filed under:Traditional Church — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 24, 2005 @ 4:01 pm

Alan of Vine and Branches commented here in the thread on "Emerging Churches and Denominations and I think his ideas warrant another conversation.

Alan responded to my comment that there are some hopeful signs of change within denominations in the US, but examples of emerging churches within existing churches are few. He asked why one would be hopeful if existing churches had signs of change? If a person has indeed had a new glimpse of an emerging kind of church, he/she would only stay within existing churches because of fear or money (Alan, hopefully I have characterized your thoughts accurately).

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Emerging Churches and Denominations

Filed under:Emerging Church — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 21, 2005 @ 5:03 pm

Questions naturally arise about Emerging Churches and their relation to denominations and/or existing churches. After explaining the dynamics of a shift to a Jesus-centered way of life, an embodied community living as Christ-followers 24-7 within postmodern cultures, hands go up in my classes…

“How does this work within existing churches?”

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Changed Domain Name

Filed under:Weblogs — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 17, 2005 @ 6:27 pm

My old domain name still works (www.thebolgblog.typepad.com), and I continue to blog at typepad.com. However, I thought it might be a good idea to get my own domain name as well, so now I am, quite simply, www.thebolgblog.com or thebolgblog.com

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A Confession

Filed under:Web/Tech — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 15, 2005 @ 5:23 pm

After 15 years of persecuting my friends, berating them for betting on the wrong horse, rejoicing in their lack of compatibility to the rest of the world, I gave in, I threw in the towel, I yielded. Yes, I switched sides. Secretly, for many years, I envied their particularities, their creativity, their sense of community with others like them. However, any thought to join their team was ridiculous — they wouldn’t survive! But against all odds, they were so optimistic — didn’t they know they would soon be proven obsolete?

However, I could not continue to deny my years of dissatisfaction with the powers-that-be, I knew that it had been far too long since I saw the kind of innovation and excitement that was clearly evident in my friends community. When my work offered me the chance to switch sides, I realized that my loyalty to my previously held convictions had ceased. I now play for the other team.

This post represents my first entry as a (gulp) Macuser… (there, I said it). Bye, bye PC…

I guess I am not alone…

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Graduation

Filed under:Fuller — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 10, 2005 @ 12:46 am

About_fuller_2 Well, it’s that time of year — this is the week of celebrations and commencement at Fuller Theological Seminary, where I teach. It is a joy to see those who have worked so hard, for so long, at such a high cost to their families, walk across that stage. I started teaching three years ago, and so I am seeing my first graduates. Very cool.

I’m feeling very sad about a few close friends who are leaving. PhD buddies Joe Manickam (going to Pennsylvania) and Chris Flanders (Texas), office-mate Nick Connell (Connecticut), and my mentor Wilbert Shenk who is retiring and returning to Indiana…I am really going to miss them…

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Emergent Response

Filed under:Emerging Church — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 7, 2005 @ 1:30 pm

Some of the key leaders of Emergent responded to their critics last week. Here are a few of my thoughts regarding their post:

I appreciate the contrite and irenic opening statement. In my experience, I have found that they have treated others with respect. Because those in the Emergent conversation are often deconstructing their own church experience, others who have not had that change of perspective can feel implicitly accused…

Perhaps they have made some strong statements in their books — so what? They are not naming names. Yes, they are proposing radical changes, changes that are in flux, that are not finished, that have not completely emerged…these narratives should unsettle all of us, but I think we need to be shaken up a bit…

For the sake of peaceableness, which I respect, they encourage those to not read Emergent books if their leaders do not support it. However, I guess I’m a little more subversive and I suspect Emergent is as well…For example, most all of my students who I assign to read A New Kind of Christian have their worlds turned upside down by it — and that is why I assign it (and why I assign most books). I knew full well their leaders most likely had not read the book…

Now that the conversation has entered the academic level, I plan on engaging at that level…thanks for the encouragement…

Helpful theological post on truth…I know they could go further, but it says the main things I believe they want said…I’m a bit surprised they didn’t talk about embodied truth, truth that is lived, a la Hauerwas and McClendon — but maybe they are getting at those leanings through their statement of loving God and serving neighbors…

They are right to dilineate between Emergent and Emerging Church — it is a pretty big tent…e.g. we had many emerging church folks here at Fuller — some Emergent, some not…

They include themselves in evangelicalism through a re-definition:

However others include or exclude us, we will continue to affirm an evangelical spirit and faith by cultivating a wholehearted devotion to Christ and his gospel, by seeking to join in the mission of God in our time, by calling people to follow God in the way of Jesus, and by doing so in an irenic spirit of love for all our brothers and sisters.

Although this is a redefinition of evangelicalism, I don’t think it is problematic, in fact I welcome it. Many evangelical stances only make sense in Christendom — where everyone was a Protestant, Catholic or Jew. Their reappropriation of the term evangelical makes sense in our current context — we are in a post-Christendom, mission context, and thereby, they focus on Jesus and the kingdom of God.

Overall, a very helpful statement. I will post a little more on Emergent as a movement in another thread… http://thebolgblog.typepad.com/thebolgblog/2005/06/on_emergent.html

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On Emergent

Filed under:Emerging Church — posted by Ryan Bolger on @ 12:54 pm

Emergent serves as an example of what it might look like for American churches to live as Christ-followers within postmodern cultures. The transitions they have made in their almost ten year history as a movement is the transition many churches need to make.

When the organization started as Young Leaders in 1996, they, like everyone else, were talking about generational ministries, connecting to Gen X, looking for techniques to reach out and become relevant. At their conference in 1997, there was a bit of  disquiet, as some of the younger leaders felt that much more than a generational change was at play, and some began to use the postmodern word for the first time. By 1998, the third YLN conference put generational strategies to the back-burner and really began to look at culture and mission. This was the first conference planned by Doug Pagitt, and was the first conference attended by Brian McLaren and Tony Jones. By 1999, their name changed to Terra Nova Theological Project reflecting their change from technique modification to something entirely new. Two years later, Brian McLaren’s New Kind of Christian reflected this new understanding of postmodern culture that was developing in the movement.

At this time also there was a budding sense that cultural changes required new theologies. At the same time, NT Wright and Dallas Willard’s influence grew — not only was there a new culture, but a new understanding of gospel, kingdom, and atonement emerged. It was at that time that it dawned upon the leaders that a whole new theology needed to be developed, i.e. a new message as well as a new method was required. Terra Nova Theological Project became Emergent at that time.

For the last few years, Emergent, primarily through books and conferences, has served as an alternative voice to the mainstream perspective that small ‘tweaking’, i.e. minor changes to church services will do the trick. Instead, we are in a new world, a postmodern/ increasingly globalized culture, and a gospel-like response must be made within postmodern cultures.

Yes, providing a space for the conversation is messy and feelings get hurt. But for the many youth pastors who suffer angst over what they are doing — that it falls short, that there must be more than simply a relevant church service with a large stage, candles, painters going at it, tables, videos, and irreverent banter…Emergent provides hope.

Emergent provides a place for these travelers to tell their stories, to deconstruct, and yes, eventually to reconstruct their faith. For those who listen carefully and long enough, it is not about Christians losing their faith, but finding it once again as well.

I’m thankful for Emergent — they have taken alot of ‘hits’ to be out in front. It is, I’m certain,a very painful role, and the temptation to quit or become bitter is ever-present. The Alternative Worship community in the UK paid a similar price over the years. As a missiologist, I celebrate those movements that seek to live incarnationally in cultures overlooked by mainstream, modern culture…

I know some may read my comments as uncritical. However, I believe we need to give missonaries wide-berth. We desperately need these sorts of movements in Western culture. Many of these leaders are the kids of evangelical pastors. Their theological roots go deep. When we shoot them, we are killing off the future of the church.  They are trying to make sense of two worlds, in one of the greatest missionary challenges the church has known. My hat is off to them and to all-too-few others like them. May they grow in number…

Here’s to you, Emergent!!

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Ancient/Future

Filed under:Worship — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 6, 2005 @ 3:52 pm

Chris, in responding to my post on Emerging Church and Cultures, asked if ancient/future leanings are aspects of local theologies. That brings up another topic and I thought I would start a different thread.

Chris,

Yes, I see the ancient/future disposition as an element of developing a local theology. Within postmodern culture there is an eclecticism, one that seeks to borrow from the marginal voices outside the mainstream. Correspondingly, emerging churches borrow from many traditions and feel limited by just one. Traditions that seem to be the most retrieved are those that exist (ed) outside of the modern world, either in 1) ancient times or 2) modern times outside the West, or within 3) Western culture as minority faith traditions.

Besides a healthy eclecticism, there is nothing magic about the ancient per se. The key missiological benefit of these retrievals, in my opinion, is the positive example of communities whose lives embodied a faith that overcame the sacred/secular split — where their spirituality encompassed all of life. These communities are exemplary role models for those looking to construct a 24-7 faith, one of our most pressing tasks today…

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Emerging Church and Cultures

Filed under:Culture — posted by Ryan Bolger on June 1, 2005 @ 1:04 pm

Pic_outside One evening every month I get together at Fu-Shing Chinese Szechwan Restaurant with other professors at Fuller to discuss chapters or articles we are writing. The Restaurant Theology Group, as it is called, is made up of a few professors from each of the schools (School of Psychology, School of Theology, and School of Intercultural Studies). We met last night we met and it was my turn to present the article/chapter. I presented the first chapter of our Emerging Churches book, which presents our thesis and definitions, etc, as well as a timeline etc of the emerging church. Feedback was very positive, but they had two questions that I think were worth repeating…

Why are so many emerging churches fundamentalist?

Actually, I have not found a single emerging church that I would characterize as fundamentalist — I have seen stand-alone "Gen X/Y" churches that are fundamentalist, and I have seen large twenty-something young adult services that are fundamentalist as well.  These are not what I would define as emerging churches — their focus is on the ’show’ and are Constantinian, ‘come to us’. 

Emerging Churches by definition cannot be fundamentalist or liberal, as both of these formulations are captive to modern formulations (scriptural foundations or individual experience). Emerging Churches are missional communities (‘live with them’, not ‘come to us’) that form local, contextual theologies. So, the missionary that seeks to live incarnationally must let go of her/his fundamentalist or liberal theology at the door and go ‘native’.

Emerging Churches are doing nothing different than what minority churches have done for a long time.

I agree — there is quite a resemblance between emerging churches and ‘minority’ churches — a focus on Jesus, an embodied missional community, a focus on hospitality, and looking to overcome sacred/secular divisions to name a few. Actually those churches that have historically practiced their faith outside the mainline churches express many elements of emerging churches. Where the Emerging Church is different, however, is in regard to the culture in which it looks to express the gospel. The holistic spiritual culture that emerged out of the 60s, combined with popular culture, technology, media, and globalization, represents a different subculture than these other subcultures. So I see the emerging church as a missional community within a particular subculture, in common parlance "postmodern culture", and that is where the main difference is between emerging churches and other missional efforts in cultures and subcultures worldwide. Just as with all indigenous theology, postmodern/ emerging theology will be different than other local theologies, if it is to be faithful to the Incarnation…

Pictures on Fuller/Allelon Consultation

Filed under:Leadership — posted by Ryan Bolger on @ 1:06 am

A few pictures on the consultation at Fuller April 27-29 — I will post a few more later…

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image: detail of installation by Bronwyn Lace